People and Leadership — Feb 2021

My takeaways from our exclusive interview with Naomi Bagdonas, a Stanford School of Business Professor, executive coach, and co-author of “Humour, Seriously” on 9th February 2021

Every month we meet a top drawer author and put them through their paces. This month it was the turn of Naomi Bagdonas and below are my takeaways from our one hour session with her.

Naomi presented brilliantly and with expert moderation from Blaire Palmer we got a whole load of anecdotes.

But here’s the thing, the real value add is the 40-minute session which followed Naomi and Blaire with a group of 8 of us. This is where the real insights get shared which can be directly related to your and my lives.

These are my takeaways; the obvious thing for you to do is go and buy the book – you will not be disappointed.

Levity

Words matter

Your mindset is absolutely key

There is a distinction between the concepts of movement/exercise/sport. Same goes for Levity/Humour/Comedy:

Your Humour Style

Find out which humour style you predominantly are

It’s OK to flex your style – but be aware of the pitfalls

Which one are you? Take the test here.

Using humour to defuse situations

An example in a tense diplomatic standoff – Yevgeny Primakov & Madeleine Albright

Performed Westside Story duet

Adversaries ended up becoming firm friends

Google Joint CEO Googles “inspirational things to say to your staff” while still in a virtual meeting (by “mistake” and while still sharing his screen)

Signalling self-deprecation

Said a lot about him

When is humour OK? You need, operating in concert:

A truth – we laugh at what we recognise

When the pain – either physical or emotional – is ‘OK’ for people

When people are sufficiently distanced – time, geographical or psychological)

Jokes are not universal, laughter is!

And Creativity is helped by laughter

Try recalling the 3 funniest things in your day:

Programmes your brain to look for it

Brain cocktail – see above

Humour

“like exercising + meditating + having sex” – all at the same time … and also HR approved!

gives a relaxed focus

Apple’s Hiroki planned moments of humour months in advance

Helps tell the story

moves you through the emotions faster – speeds up the process from trust to respect

gives a sense of connection – for example, couples 30% more satisfied after laughter

How leaders signal using levity

Another example – Richard Branson and the Elders who then included Nelson Mandela, Archbishop Desmond Tutu, President Jimmy Carter, Kofi Annan and Peter Gabriel aiming to solve the real problems of the world).

The scene: Necker Island 2004

The planned agenda was crammed with hugely well researched PowerPoint presentations

Branson ripped that up and insisted on 50% play time

Perversely this made space to be human

Desmond Tutu & Jimmy Carter after a swimming lesson

toes in the sand

First cut of the Elders’ founding principles

How to be playful and intimate on virtual calls (which we are all doing a lot of these days)

Show more of and about ourselves

Salesforce execs use signs made by their pre-school children

Nike compiled executives’ TikTok videos

And finally …

Fancy playing Comedy Roulette

all attendees submit videos anonymously

show the videos

then identify which video made by whom

Do let me know if you are interested in receiving details of our future Meet the Authors events – these are the ones coming up:

Upcoming Events

Meet Gary Bloom and Mark Nicholls’ guests for KEEPING YOUR HEAD IN THE GAME

Tue, Mar9, 2021, 10:00AM

Meet Daniel Susskind with Mark Nicholls’ guests for A WORLD WITHOUT WORK

Tue, Apr13, 2021, 10:00AM

Meet Rebecca Henderson & Mark Nicholls’ guests for REIMAGINING CAPITALISM

Tue, May 4, 2021, 3:00PM

Meet Laurence Alison & Mark Nicholls’ guests for RAPPORT

Tue, June 8, 2021, 10:00AM